Weekend Recap – We’ve Reached The Peak

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We just can’t stop asking ourselves if House music has reached its peak, once again. This week we bring a lot more to the discussion including LMFAO and SHM’s breakup. Also find out who is America’s #1 DJ!

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  1. Joke songs I’ve played:
    Because I Got High- Afroman
    I’m On a Boat- Lonely Island
    Moving Like Berney

    Joke songs I have not played:
    Gangnam Style
    I Just Had Sex- Lonely Island

    • This is a good list, but gangnam style does fit into things a bit differently because it is a pop track right in the 128ish wheelhouse of everything else in the world, it has a dance which only Berney does, and it dovetails with about any LMFAO song as a ridiculous and fun song. Really Jay? The “Gang Man” style thing over and over is a bit annoying, and how can you not play this at your college spot? If you ever played “Sorry for Party Rocking” this is essentially the same. The foreign language thing is also not a reason. Sauvemente by Elvis Crespo, Ella Elle L’a by Kate Ryan, anything Pitbull after the tonka trunk and donkey kong talk, every Gucci song…People don’t care about the verses as long as they have a hook to yell out after mumbling along to the Korean verses.

  2. Sex Song was produced by Sky Blu

  3. I think for the most part, like JD mentioned, over saturation can be a key player into really anything “peaking” or eventually declining. DJ, Producer or not, we all have those moments when we think to ourselves why the radio station just played “Call Me Maybe” a zillion times….In a 2 hour block!! lol

    I think that we in this country are conditioned to this trend cycle. Something is hot and trends so much so, to the point that it ends up being overdone where as everyone gets tired of it and then looks on to something new in different. Weather it is House or another genre, it will come in very hot, peak, trend, and what have you, then will decline just as fast. Solarz said it best, everything in moderation. You guys made a good point as well referring to LMFAO. There is just so far you can go with a certain sound before people think its starting to become a little played out. People need to freshen, and re-fresh their ears on a musical basis every now and then, and usually its more now. Stats show that trends do not often last long, so its no surprise to me when a trend falls and people are on to the next one!!
    The TV sitcom Industry knows this all to well. Sitcoms nowadays do not like to go up to the magical 10 seasons anymore because they want to go out on top. Seinfeld was a good example of this, about going out on top! If you go out while your hot, people don’t mind revisiting whatever it is you put out again in the future, because you have essentially wanted more when they left you, and now a comeback leaves you curious to see them again, hopefully where they left off. In other words when an entity say like a band, TV show, etc goes out on top, they are basically at that point in demand, and they are the ones calling the shots rather then being judged down by their fans. You guys mention SHM, I’m sure by going out when they are just reaching the top these past couple of years, especially with John Martins vocals on “Save the World” and “Dont Worry Child”, you would think that SHM would continue their successful streak, but by abandoning the SHM brand for now allows them to more precisely control their future fate. I also heard they want to explore their own seperate side projects as single Artists like they always had done so prior to the SHM brand. Im not saying LMFAO did this, but some groups leave for things like JD mentioned, as well as wanting to explore their own different musical directions. Sometimes though if you make people wait to long for a comeback, they lose interest in what you do have for them when they do finally comeback. None the less, in the future, when they are talked about in Musical History, they are seen as going out on top rather than sinking to the bottom because of fan alienation!
    I also think, a big key to longevity success in this Industry is to work hard behind the scenes, say like in Producing, Writing, Composing, etc. Sure, the beat makers for your usual lineup of Pop Stars like Britney, Katy, etc may never get the popular shine they deserve by the fans, however they get tremendous respect within their Industry peers, and return business via Producing tracks for big name Artists keeps the steady flow of paychecks coming! Lady Gaga is a good example. Before we knew her as a controversial stage performer, she was a behind the scenes writer for many well known Artists. If her popularity in regards to her stage acts someday gets old, and no one is paying attention to her anymore, she has a great, serious behind the scenes career to fall back on.
    Regarding JD and Springs thoughts on if kids of today will be playing this House Music when they are older. Just my opinion, people have to remember, back in the say 70s, 80s, and 90s, there weren’t a zillion bedroom DJs and or Producers making one off Instrumental House tracks with easy access to Music technology. There were not a lot of Independant labels making tracks by the bushells. Usually what you had back then was your well known to all Artists that had to pay top dollar to record in a recording Studio, and what did that mean to the Record companies? These songs better become hits or at least make some noise out on the radio if we are going to recoup our Artist advancements for studio time to make an album. Put that up against today where you can literally walk into a Guitar Center and purchase a fairly descent studio set up for little money, then make a track, post it along with a video on You Tube with the possibility of recognition, but with the all to common adverse effect of that same track not even being remembered 6 moths to a couple of years down the line. And that intertwines with what Spring rightfully acknowledged when he listed certain formats within House that for one people may not even know now, or may know now, but forget by next year, but tell me, who forgets classics by the late great MJ? no one, and that seems to be what the guys are alluding to.
    Longevity for older classics seem to have a longer shelf life than music today. Many people think so as well. Spring, I feel somewhat the same, as I think about it, the 80s and 90s classics are far different than what todays music brings to us. Not that its a bad thing by any means, just musically different, and Sandstorm is a great example. Being played at a time when the 3 major crossover radio Artists were more or less Artists like Darude, ZombieNation, and Ian Van Dahl, those songs, just like a first impression does, sears in your mind and makes a lasting impression, sometimes a classic impression that remains for all time.

    PSY’s track definitely has its place. Much like other dance or joke songs have come and gone in the past. Gangnam Style has definitely already found its place in the book of these style songs to be played as classic joke/line dance favorites. Much like the Macarena could be gotten away with at a Wedding or similar event where these dance type songs may be requested, it brings that much needed fun to the Wedding dancefloor. Imagine Grandma, not having a clue to what this song is, but seeing her grandchildren having fun doing this dance out on the dancefloor. Its silly fun the family can share in on, but I leave it to each their own when playing a club venue. I guess, if you don’t have one single request for the track week after week, then I can see how many DJs will refrain from playing it, but going to JDs point of its the DJs job to play the hottest songs, agreed, if it is ridiculously being requested to the point that patrons are complaining to management, and management is telling you that you should be playing it, then yeah, you better treat this like any other #1 song out there and play it, leaving your biased opinions at the door :)

  4. I probably should of mentioned this in my previous post, again, in my own opinion, I think its a fair assessment and observation to call Aviciis’ “Levels” a classic House song that DJs may be playing in the future, much in the same fashion as DJs today play tracks like Sandstorm. Im not comparing the musical makeup/style or composition of the two, as they are obviously from 2 seperate eras of House music and sub genres, and Sandstorm as its completly an Instrumental, Avicci implements a very famous Vocal sample in two parts of the song, but Im more or less referring to how both tracks went from being underground club sensations to quickly moving onto and crossing over into top 40 radio stations literally everywhere.

    The difference back then was, like Spring mentioned, not too many other House tracks were being considered for Top 40 crossover radio play, so Sandstorm by definition made huge leaps and bounds for having the ability to get onto Top 40 radio in a world of mostly Top 40 Hip Hop and Pop music. However “Levels” too, in almost the same way made those same leaps and bounds today, in regards to success. Just look at where we are today musically, with all of these Uptempo Pop/House crossover tracks along with some what would years ago be considered underground type House tracks being played on Radiotoday. Avicii, to have that chapter in his career of radio acceptance and airplay has also risen to the top with that track, because out of the plethora of House tracks that to many should equally have their fair share of radio airtime, Avicii has managed to already have gotten there. I use “Levels” as an example because it consists of more of an instrumental than say a David Guetta track that may be equally as a future classic or have equal radio time, but to most, the David Guetta track has full vocals consisting of versus, choruses, bridges, as where Avicii managed to get a radio charttopper with a sample vocal, abeit a very famous vocal sample!

  5. House was huge way before it became big < yea I meant to say it like that.

    House has been around a very long time, in most of the western world one would expect to hear house in most credible nightclubs, hip hop on the other hand is considered far less the norm in such club settings, except of course in dedicated and open format venues, the latter in truth make up the majority of venues; pubs, bars, fun clubs etc but not traditional nightclubs with huge dancefloors, lasers etc.

    So whether house beats are predominant in the top 40 or not it'll be huge for a very long time yet, perhaps until the end of time because really house has become a tempo range rather than a specific sound, anything is possible on a 4/4 beat from 120-130bpm, and in my opinion this is the optimal tempo range for young dancers, the crowd get hyped, some even jump up and down, and I think this is the reason why it isn't going anywhere more broadly speaking.

    Whilst hip hop can fill a floor the energy from the dancers is suitably low as you'd expect from the average energy and tempo of the songs, of course there are exceptions such as the wobble song. For Urban music to really come back into open format clubs as it was in the mid 2000's, the ton and tempo need to move in favor of uptempo, fun, energetic tracks, from 90-120bpm, so people can really have a blast on the dancefloor, for me an urban set depends on entirely on classics which is not sustainable on a daily basis.

    The best outcome would be for artists to stop jumping on the bandwagon and focus on dance-able music in whatever form it takes, one of the problems with house is that we only look to a few artists who make progressive or electro house, there's so much more talent out there that's ignored and what's wrong with funky house? Instead of thinking about the kind of sounds the clubbers like we instead just download afrojack, Tiesto, R3hab etc thinking this will take care of business, I think this is naive and short sighted, the drops in these tracks are just getting harder and frankly more stupid and less enjoyable than they were a year ago,instead of the beatport top 100 check the traxsource top 100, find the sounds that work for the hour not just the bangers for the peak of the insanity.

  6. Spring man, you definitely can get away with playing Gangnam Style at your college spot, especially if you use the version that JD talked about. I played that same version last week and even though the bar was slow it got a huge reaction! I played a very quick hitting edit I made of Gangnam Style then went into the Chris James blend. I will most likely be playing it tonight at a local college spot and I am sure it will be heavily requested, so I will let you know how it went over, and how I got in and out of it.

    Oh and to me, which this might make you want to play this even less, this seems like if Livin La Vida Loca and Party Rock Anthem were thrown in a blender together you would get Gangnam Style hahahaha!!!

    Oppa Gangnam Style!

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